慕尼黑英语角 *** munich english corner ***

perl

I hate to speak it out actually, but i have not noticed a slightly tiny bit of change since the last calling on inside venue. I am against nobody in student union as i don't know any of them on personal level. The fact is, the people in the corner are not native English speakers so that they couldn't keep the voice down as they were on public transport, got excited or involved in a certain discussion, which distracted most of the passerby, who rolled their eyes, shaked their heads, laughed. The problem is, Germans, passengers, passersbys would not complain, not directly to the people making noises, only quietly to each other, or to spouse when they get home, or to colleges when they get to work on Monday. This makes me feel the long-time built up reputation for modest, reserved, polite Chinese will be devastated within a second. I am not patriotic, but don’t enjoy Chinese to be frown up and picked up for fun at their tea. I fell rather embarrassed than confident indeed. 4 ]3 \( M! [/ L: K' g7 p 4 ~4 X+ Y/ D+ Z; B! l% FTo cut the long story short, an inside place is a necessary and precondition for the later meets up.

maoxiaomin

Hey, you guys, I hope you still remember me. I'm doing pretty well in Chemnitz, and I miss you all! ' Q$ _% q2 ~9 z( X/ n- X/ `2 m To Perl: % K' Z( i: }% R, z1 Z $ ?& ?8 e& I, T" f8 owhy on earth do we have to be native speakers, so as to speak English out loud in public? I absolutly agree with you when you said we are in a free country. Isn't that a sort of freedom to talk, or to speak all kinds of language freely? If I had to practice my English in a soundproofed room with my voice kept down, I'd rather not to practice at all. $ d/ d$ |6 N$ bI don't know you. I've never met you. But I can sense your arrogance. Think about it. Btw, you don't care someone, you care for someone! Looks like I'm not the only one who needs more practice.....

perl

原帖由 maoxiaomin 于 16.7.2008 15:40 发表 Hey, you guys, I hope you still remember me. I'm doing pretty well in Chemnitz, and I miss you all! 7 v2 O; D. Z' \7 Q6 \ 9 {4 Q* o1 [' qTo Perl: / P0 t1 G& P0 J2 K- ^* f % e- i* B) m p% J2 x$ A5 l) L. gwhy on earth do we have to be native speakers, so as to speak English out loud in pub ...

if you say "talk loudly in public is kind of expression of freedom rather than rude, inconsiderable, face-losing manners", then my question will be why frowns, glares, contemptuous looks, tutting and muttering turn up if you talk loudly in public ? I conducted a research and the 80% passerby followed the reactions. Is the barrage of sighs and scowls a signal of recognition than humiliation? And you just simply oblivious to all these of signals and brazen it out. Then I really admire your resistance capability. Every society has their underlying rules and the people violating the rule, talking and laughing loudly in public are to treat as a disapproved, annoying manner in Germany. Even in china the louder mouths are much-frown-upon, isn't it? If you allege that’s called freedom, then what about quarrel, brawl, fighting, peeing in public, which are absolutely not lawbreaking manners and therefore should also be free by your logic, while I define it as bloody discourtesy, rudeness, disrespect and with your word „arrogance" in my world. I am in quite belief you catch few what I mean or we talk different languages. + M3 T$ |- L: V - I* }$ P2 I1 F& T( _% m( }[ 本帖最后由 perl 于 16.7.2008 19:06 编辑 ]

sinux

@perl - `5 P7 }3 c( r4 d$ ?& O9 gyour effort has been noted! i appreciated for that! & F% d( o4 s3 G6 B# m& `$ I; ?: G since last time discussing, about 2 weeks ago, i drafted a request Email to Student Union's chef about activity place for English Corner in TUM. Unfortunately, so far so quiet. Maybe keep silence is one kind of refusing response, which makes us both uncomfortable, actually. / j* O4 Y, ~6 k5 yhopefully that a positive response will be received from Munich Student Union soon!! 4 J; Y3 Y* ^/ e4 l meanwhile, a new possible place for running english corner has been issued. Ask LZ for more details of corner in this weekend. , C2 i p& H( G: s/ r) ` 7 Z0 S4 {* g rhave a nice night!

yuankai

post has been updated! # L1 g- I \8 x! M1 B$ zas sinux said upstairs, a new place and time have been settled.

yuankai

原帖由 maoxiaomin 于 16.7.2008 15:40 发表 Hey, you guys, I hope you still remember me. I'm doing pretty well in Chemnitz, and I miss you all! . c4 z1 w$ }1 c1 h6 ~$ F! dTo Perl: # \9 G5 t6 X4 ]6 A+ ^4 e2 twhy on earth do we have to be native speakers, so as to speak English out loud in pub ...

" V+ |, G) ^' s+ O ! g" X5 q: a9 A- x$ L/ k3 qHi, how are you? We miss you too. When will you come back to munich? Have a nice time there and take care of yourself!

maoxiaomin

Hey, I'm so glad you still remember me! I'm just doing great. Thank you! I don't know when I can go to Munich again. But I would really love to sometime. 8 }3 L3 T* d+ o* G+ A Hey, Perl, I think the point you were trying to make before was, we shouldn't speak out loud in public because we were not as good as those native speakers......which could lead to the conclusion that only native speakers are allowed to speak their language out loud.....If my interpretation is wrong, please try to explain the whole native speaker thing you mentioned before. About the research you conducted...what the hack was that! I 'll tell you what. If I meet a foreigner in China, who's really making effort fo practicing and improving his Chinese, not at all will I feel uncomfortable listening to him, or give him a cold look.....I think I'll talk to him instead, and tell him to speak more and louder..... & N( V9 Z2 r- B4 \2 n; {: tAnd by the bye, reading your messages is really an unpleasant thing to do. I had to use the dictionary all the time....Sorry, but I'm not a native speaker after all. But I'm a native speaker of Chinese. So if you want, I can talk in that with you, loud and clear, I promise!

perl

原帖由 maoxiaomin 于 17.7.2008 21:24 发表 Hey, I'm so glad you still remember me! I'm just doing great. Thank you! I don't know when I can go to Munich again. But I would really love to sometime. Hey, Perl, I think the point you were tryi ...

( f: f! }! T3 H2 T2 _: M Did I mention somewhere or somehow that "we shouldn't speak out loud in public because we were not as good as those native speakers". For God's sake!! I mean the people couldn't keep their voice down maybe because they are not native speakers. We all have kind of feeling that one couldn't express oneself very well, if he or she can't command the language, say he or she is a foreign speaker, which I assume the noises derived from. I am sorry that I should have shortened my sentences to make everybody see. On the other side it reminds me the subject a few weeks ago "Quantity or Quality". Actually I should have thought you were excellent in the language, as remembered you speak in slight accent, contrastive intonation and correct phrasing. Actually I wish I would have given you a “warmer” welcome in response to your coming bake. ! a1 @1 L N9 c6 K. i3 Q * r0 W- y4 @2 `/ \$ D% f _About the point weather one should practice louder? That should not be an issue at all, because that's too obvious and also not the point we are discussing, I suppose. That's defiantly a good measure to improve languages. If you really think it is necessary to put it on the table, I have to correct the point into „talk louder out of your territory". Just like if one is allowed at all to pick his noses, scratching themselves in intimacy or screaming rows with your partner? These are absolutely legal, and I assume everybody did it in privacy of the home. If you dare to perform all of that in public, I have to say, you must be a bold, creative and masculine creature. If you enjoy public presenting of the manners, let me see...... that's would be new topic. 0 l8 @. X% ?0 P& N; ` " G3 ?& i0 a n U' b[ 本帖最后由 perl 于 18.7.2008 14:01 编辑 ]

小NA

I am afraid i can"t join you this weekend, 2 P* S$ F, } C9 A5 J. ocause i need to work at Sat. Have a nice weekend！

catholical

今天6点多去了Feeling，结果一个人也没有看到啊。。。